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Subject Some may think that.
     
Posted by jschrauwen on December 13, 2009 at 8:42 AM
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In Reply To the funny part of it is..... posted by LJZTT on December 13, 2009 at 02:58 AM
     
Message From what I've heard and seen, Mr Smith may not have been managing his manifold busines very well. I think he relied on pre-orders as a means of funding new prodcution runs. These production runs were usually of a very small scale and at times sporadic. This would obviously lead to a few snags such as limited availability (which was extremely common) and higher prodcution costs (which is completely understandable for small prodcution run operations). These factors I believe lead to very high purchasing prices. I should know, I'm presently using a set of MSP manifolds purchased over 2 years ago at almost twice the current cost of the AMS manifolds.

I believe AMS was able to offer a substantially less expensive alternative due to negating some of the obstacles that MSP encountered. Namely, having a much much larger production run and having them made in Asia. In doing so, AMS was able to offer a similar product at a substantial savings in comparison to MSP. This is probably why you may believe that others may view Vuk as some sort of "hero". Is it also possible that perhaps his business skills are a bit better than Mike Smith?
I have nothing against Mike Smith and why should I? Heck, I've never even met the fellow. Do I think he's a "greedy asshole"? Not in the very least. I even use his manifolds. If I felt they were doing my Z a diss- service I would have them removed. But they're not and they're working just fine and I'm happy about that.
Now, had I the option at the time of my engine build and I had the choice of the two right in front of me at the same time, I'd choose the AMS ones. Partially because they appear to have better flow rates but mostly because of the cost. I'm being completely honest here.
That is my right and priviledge to exercise that freedom of choice. I'm sure you wouldn't want to inhibit one's freedom of choice as to what prodcuts they want to buy, would you?

I will dare to say that there may be an underlying issue that some may not want to admit to. That is the fact that AMS is not American. That for some reason, supporting a non-American company is just down-right wrong. I can fully understand that type of thinking. I've personally experienced something similar numerous times over the last 3 decades in my trips and vacations to the sunny south. I may be way off-base here, but I liken it to a typical red-neck mind-set. These people are of a very narrow point of view and do not and will not recognize anything outside of that narrow mindedness. In a twisted sort of fashion, that same sort of perspective may be prevalent but will never if ever be spoken of and certainly never admitted to publicly. In a sense, it may be linked or associated to a bit of a protectionist posture. Governments practice all sorts of protectionist policies as a means of saving businesses and economies. Seeing that same sort of practice within our own sphere should not be a surprise nor should it be discounted as a potential factor in play when it comes to Z32 products offered by AMS.

     
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